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i took these off a 1965 426 wedge motor. in 2003.they are in very good condition. no dents or anything wrorg with them.not sure what they oringinally came off of. black finish appears to be original. if you know what they came off of you know more than i do. i have never seen any like these. these are 6 bolt and i believe fit 383,426 and 440 motors. for their age they are in very very nice condition